MacYak Podcast

The Producer’s Series: Clair Rockel

• Building client relationships through ‘apostles’ and referrals
• Niche specialization in specific neighborhoods and property types
• Adapting strategies during market slowdowns and economic shifts

The Producer’s Series: Simon Clayton

Published: February 13, 2026

In this episode of Mac Yak, hosts David Langlois and Dan Scarrow welcome Simon Clayton, a seasoned real estate agent with over 23 years of experience in Vancouver’s market. The conversation explores Simon’s journey into real estate, the challenges he faced in the early years, and the importance of building strong client relationships. Simon shares his expertise in court-ordered sales and the intricacies of navigating the foreclosure process. The discussion also emphasizes the significance of collaboration and networking within the real estate community, along with Simon’s insights on current market trends and predictions for the future.

• Simon Clayton has over 23 years of experience in Vancouver real estate.
• Building relationships is crucial for long-term success in real estate.
• Early career challenges can be overcome with persistence and strategy.
• Specializing in court-ordered sales can create unique opportunities.
• Empathy is essential when dealing with clients in distressing situations.
• Networking with other agents can lead to collaborative success.
• Understanding the foreclosure process is vital for real estate agents.
• Market conditions can change rapidly, requiring adaptability.
• Maintaining client trust leads to repeat business and referrals.
• Consistent communication and follow-ups are key to staying relevant in the market.

Chapters

Season 4 Episode 1 – 2026 More than just a forecast!

Published: January 22, 2026

David is joined by new co-host Dan Scarrow and the incredibly talented Mathew Lee for a high level, wide ranging conversation on what is in store for 2026, what trends and issues we’re seeing and what will need to be done as an agent for a successful 2026!

Season 3 Episode 5 – Brendon Ogmundson BCREA Chief Economist

Published: September 25, 2025

David & Tore are joined by BCREA Chief Economist Brendon Ogmundson to talk about where the market is, where we’re going and what exactly is going on out there across the province and nationally. We touch on interest rates, supply, housing starts, housing policy and even a bit of football. It’s a good one, thanks for listening.

Season 3 Episode 4 – Home Staging with Emmeline Chang

Published: March 31, 2025

On this episode of MacYak, Tore flies solo and has an engaging and informing conversation with Emmeline Chang, principal at Staged with Flair. Tore & Emmeline talk about the importance of home staging to sellers and agents and how presenting a home in the right light allows buyers to see themselves in the space. A must listen for agents and both buyers and sellers. Thanks for listening.

Season 3 Episode 3 – Chris Shields & Buyer Agency

Published: March 15, 2025

Chris Shields, incoming BCREA Chair, joins us for a great conversation around buyer agency contracts. We focus on both why agent’s should be using them and, more importantly, why consumers should be embracing them. Thanks for the listen.

Season 3 Episode 2 – Realtor Safety with Shannon Cutler

Published: February 11, 2025

On this episode of MacYak we are joined by Parksville Realtor Shannon Cutler. Shannon is an expert on REALTOR® safety and has a unique background that makes her both an expert and a terrific resource on this topic. Shannon has launched her own podcast called the Safe Realty podcast, which can be found everywhere. Thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 3: Episode 1 – 2024 recap and 2025 look ahead

Published: January 24, 2025

Happy new Year! MacYak is back for 2025 with this our first episode of the year… Tore and I recap 2024 and look ahead to 2025 as we get out our crystal balls and peer into the future. Have a listen and see if we agree on how last year went and on what we see coming in 2025.

MacYak Season 2: Episode 6 – Year End Wrap Up with Dan Scarrow!

Published: December 13, 2024

David and Tore are joined by Dan Scarrow, the President of Macdonald Realty Group for a fun conversation about the past year and what’s coming for 2025. We touch on market forces, changes in the industry and argue about which region throws the best parties. (Spoiler alert! – it’s Vancouver Island.)

MacYak Season 2: Episode 5 – Billy Efoko, VP Leading RE

Published: November 23, 2024

On this episode of MacYak, Tore and I are joined by Billy Ekofo, the VP of Global business development for the Leading Real Estate companies of the world. We  learn about Billy’s inspiring story, talk about the importance of a service mindset in real estate, and learn about the emerging markets in Africa and around the globe.  I think we even got Billy to agree to buy drinks for any Canadians who attend the exciting Leading RE conference coming up in February. Thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 2: Episode 4 – Brendon Ogmundson Chief Economist BCREA

Published: November 4, 2024

In this episode guest co-host Matthew Lee and I have a wide ranging conversation with Brendon Ogmundson, Chief Economist for BCREA. We touch on housing policy, interest rates, the housing industry, American politics and throw in a little bit of football for fun. Brendon is a terrific resource and it’s easy to see why he is so well respected across all sectors, and he’s a great podcast guest. Thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 2: Episode 3 – John DiMichele Part II

Published: October 18, 2024

Industry Heavyweight and CEO of the Toronto Regional Real Estate Board John DiMichele joins Tore and David for a great conversation that ranged from the state of the industry in Canada, what’s going on in the states, what’s going on in Ontario, prop tech and what the future holds. It was so good in fact we’ve turned it into two parts, this is Part II, thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 2: Episode 2 – John DiMichele Part I

Published: October 4, 2024

Industry Heavyweight and CEO of the Toronto Regional Real Estate Board John DiMichele joins Tore and David for a great conversation that ranged from the state of the industry in Canada, what’s going on in the states, what’s going on in Ontario, prop tech and what the future holds. It was so good in fact we’ve turned it into two parts, this is Part I, thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 2: Episode 1 – Jeff King

Published: September 20, 2024

In our second season opener, Tore and David talk to none other than Jeff King, the CEO of the Greater Vancouver REALTORS®. We have a wide ranging conversation about professionalism, the state of the industry today and what it will look like in the future, the impact of AI and somehow, Godzilla! This one was a lot of fun to do and we were lucky to have Jeff on the pod given the important role he plays in our ecosystem and we were both left impressed with his willingness to talk about important issues and to be transparent and open on the things are are important to us all. Thanks for listening!

MacYak Season 1: Episode 11 – Summertime Mindset and Gratitude

Published: August 16, 2024

In this episode David and Tore talk about the importance of mindset and the role that gratitude can play in our businesses and lives. This isn’t a rainbows and unicorns episodes, this is something that can be an important way forward, in real estate and in life. Thanks for listening.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 10 – Changes in Selling Tenant Occupied Properties

Published: July 12, 2024

On this episode David and Tore discuss the changes in the RTA coming into effect on July 18th. What are the changes? What are the unintended consequences? How will this impact tenanted properties? What strategies be employed moving forward? Listen for the answers to these questions and more, including important reminders about rules around selling tenant occupied properties in this episode of MacYak.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 9 – BCREA Chief Economist Brendon Ogmundson

Published: June 14, 2024

Tore and David host special guest Brendon Ogmundson, Chief Economist at the B.C. Real Estate Association, for a lively discussion on interest rates, housing policy and the investment environment in B.C. It really is way more interesting than it sounds! 

MacYak Season 1: Episode 8 – Negotiation

Published: June 1, 2024

Join Tore and David for a high level conversation about negotiation in the first of what will be a multipart examination of negotiation philosophy, strategy and specific tactics.

The conversation covers the foundational principles of negotiation in real estate, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, relationship-building, and strategic preparation. It delves into the significance of market knowledge, setting client expectations, and creating a framework for negotiation. The discussion also touches on the value of goodwill, persuasion techniques, and the role of training in becoming a professional negotiator.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 7 – Proptech and More with Lynette Keyowski from REACH Canada

Published: May 18, 2024

David and Tore welcome REACH Canada Managing Partner Lynette Keyowski on to the show where we have a wide ranging and fulsome discussion of the state of property technology today, where it’s been and where it’s going. When will the robots take over? Why can’t proptech companies spell? These questions and more get answered in a great interview with an amazing guest.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 6 – Talking with Trevor Koot

Published: May 3, 2024

In this episode of Mac Yak, Tore and David talk to Trevor Koot, CEO of the British Columbia Real Estate Association, who discusses the need for a fundamental shift in organized real estate. He highlights the challenges of the complex ecosystem and the protectionism that hinders innovation. Trevor emphasizes the importance of acting more like a corporation and less like a service club, focusing on the future and being competitive. He encourages collaboration, engagement, and operational alignment to streamline services and make progress. The conversation also touches on the role of boards, the need for amalgamation, and the influence of external pressures.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 5 – Where the Business Comes From (Part 2)

MacYak Season 1: Episode 4 – Where the Business Comes From (Part 1)

MacYak Season 1: Episode 3 – The Organized Real Estate Episode

Published: February 29, 2024

In this episode of Mac Yak, David Langlois and Tore Jacobsen discuss organized real estate, including the role of real estate boards, the British Columbia Real Estate Association (BCREA), the regulator (BCFSA), and the Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA). They emphasize the importance of professionalism in the real estate business and the need for realtors to get involved at various levels of organized real estate. They also touch on topics such as appetizers, real estate arguments, favorite fish, and real estate irritations.

• Professionalism in the real estate business is improving, with efforts being made at the brokerage, board, provincial, and national levels.
• Realtors should consider getting involved in organized real estate, whether it’s at the board, provincial, or national level.
• Real estate boards provide support, education, and resources for realtors, as well as important services like the MLS system.
• The BCREA serves as the voice of advocacy for the real estate industry in British Columbia and provides education and economic information.
• The BCFSA is the regulator that issues real estate licenses and sets the rules for the industry.
• CREA is the national organization that advocates for the real estate industry and provides resources and information for realtors and the public.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 2 – Last Year and This Year

• The rescission period had minimal impact on the real estate market, with very few cases reported.
• Changes in team rules brought more transparency to the industry and clarified the relationships between agents and teams.
• The new FinTrac requirements have been met with mixed reactions, but agents are obligated to comply with them.
• The market outlook for this year is positive, with increased activity and confidence among buyers and sellers.
• Agents should focus on building relationships, staying informed, and avoiding distractions to be successful in the industry.

MacYak Season 1: Episode 1 – Meet Your Hosts – Go To Events!